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Jakich smarow uzyc?

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28/11/2009 20:09

KLOSZ #_USUN_TO_@_USUN_TO_#

Vtka,
zima idzie i szykuje sobie zaplecze do kilku drobnych prac przy kozie. przegladam sobie serwisowke i sie zastanawiam co anglojezyczny poeta mial na mysli zalecaja smarowanie polaczen nastepujacymi specyfikami:

1. Molybdenum disulfide oil
2. Wheel bearing grease
3. Lithium soap base grease
4. Molybdenum disulfide grease

Mam pewne podejrzenia, ale chetnie dowiedzialbym sie od kogos lepiej ode mnie oblatanego w smarowidlach, czego uzyc, zeby nie narobic sobie problemu?

Ad. Poz. 1 - poza tym, ze widze z nazwy, ze to jakis olej i ma cos wspolnego z molibdenem, to zielonego pojecia nie mam o co poprosic w sklepie (a na kompetencje panienki w osiedlowym motoryzacyjnym liczyc nie moge, bo oleju silnikowego od przekladniowego tez nie odroznia).


Ad. Poz. 2 - to jak widze smar do lozysk, czyli taki zwykly T-43, ot taki zwyczajny towot (np taki http://tnij.org/lt43 ) ?

Ad. Poz. 3 - Smar litowy (http://tnij.org/litowy - np cos takiego?)

Ad. Poz. 4 - Smar molibdenowy, czyli cos takiego http://tnij.org/molibdenowy  ?

I pytanie pomocnicze, czy smarowidlo z pozycji 2 i 3 mozna stosowac zamiennie, czy sa miedzy nimi jakies istotne roznice i raczej warto kupic taki i taki?


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KLOSZ

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28/11/2009 19:02

AlF #_USUN_TO_@_USUN_TO_#

KLOSZ wrote:
1. Molybdenum disulfide oil
4. Molybdenum disulfide grease
wspolnego z molibdenem, to zielonego pojecia nie mam o co poprosic w sklepie (a na kompetencje panienki w osiedlowym motoryzacyjnym liczyc nie moge, bo oleju silnikowego od przekladniowego tez nie odroznia).
Ad. Poz. 4 - Smar molibdenowy, czyli cos takiego http://tnij.org/molibdenowy  ?


hey,

wedle tej linki: http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-322212.html

"""
To quote the XR250 repair manual, one of the first pages (the one that describes the Symbols used in the manual):
Mo (oil): Use molybdenum oil solution (mixture of the engine oil and molybdenum grease in a ration 1:1)

M (grease): Use molybdenum disulphide grease (containing more than 3% molybdenum disulphide, NLGI #2 or equivalent).
Example: Molykote BR-2 plus manufactured by Dow Corning, USA
Example: Multi-purpose M-2 manufactured by Mitsubishi Oil Japan
"""

czyli 1 to mieszanina 1:1 oleju silnikowego z 4.

tu jest jeszcze ciekway artykol na temat smarowania: http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Shaft.html

z tego co rozumiem to taki smar molibdenowy musi miec 60% siarczku molibdenu.

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29/11/2009 14:13

Kuczu #_USUN_TO_@_USUN_TO_#

AlF pisze:

z tego co rozumiem to taki smar molibdenowy musi miec 60% siarczku molibdenu.

Zwykly smar do samochodowych przegubow polosi napedowych. Pare pln w kazdym sklepie z czesciami auto.

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29/11/2009 15:14

Jackare #_USUN_TO_@_USUN_TO_#

Uytkownik "KLOSZ" <#_USUN_TO_@_USUN_TO_#> napisa w wiadomoci news:hersgu$khe$1inews.gazeta.pl...
Vtka,
zima idzie i szykuje sobie zaplecze do kilku drobnych prac przy kozie. przegladam sobie serwisowke i sie zastanawiam co anglojezyczny poeta mial na mysli zalecaja smarowanie polaczen nastepujacymi specyfikami:

1. Molybdenum disulfide oil
2. Wheel bearing grease
3. Lithium soap base grease
4. Molybdenum disulfide grease

Mam pewne podejrzenia, ale chetnie dowiedzialbym sie od kogos lepiej ode mnie oblatanego w smarowidlach, czego uzyc, zeby nie narobic sobie problemu?

1 i 4 to bdzie dwusiarczek molibdenu w postaci oleju i smaru. rodek do smarowania powierzchni trcych.W motoryzacji jest to generalnie jest to smarowido stosowane w amortyzatorach m.in. do zagszczania zwykego oleju amortyzatorowego
http://www.e-lozyska.com/Molykote/DwusiarczekMolibdenu/DwusiarczekMolibdenu.php
2. Smar do oysk k. W naszych realiach bdzie to po prostu smar do oysk tocznych, chyba e do motocykli smar ten ma mie jakie okreslone parametry (wytrzymao temperaturow itp)
3. Smar litowy - lub smar zagszczany mydem litowym (wyjdzie na to samo) do kupienia w sklepach technicznych.
http://oleje_samochodowe.webpark.pl/smary.html

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